going over the cliff would throw economy back into a deep recession, there would be nothing that would rob more americans and hurt our most vulnerable citizens more than being -- having their house go back underwater because of a rise in interest rates, or that potential of a job disappear because an employer decides to end up no longer active, or that unemployment benefits don't get extended because we chose to punt rather than deal with this issue. and, again, we go over a cliff, and if the chances are only 10% that this throws us back into a deep recession, unlike in the past, unlike the fiscal crisis of 2008, we don't have extraordinary measures of stimulus or the fed being able to dramatically lower interest rates. so i believe, mr. president, that we do need balanced, responsible, at least $4 trillion deal. a deal, again, that i believe counts the cuts we've already made, that adds additional real revenue. and again, as i mentioned earlier, i think the president has started too low in terms of the amount of revenue we need. we took $4.5 trillion out of the revenue stream over the las